from a Smithsonian interview
Q: You also worked at McDonalds?
A: Yeah. I began to think, "How can I escape this trap of just experiencing what I expect" I decided maybe I would just try to put myself in places where I don't know what to do, what to say, or how to act. So, I did things like working at McDonald's and on an Amish farm, which had not technology whatsoever.