"J: Like a game to make the puzzle so complicated.
S: What happens in the end?...Does he ever get it?
J: No way. The puzzle takes over. You're not trying to solve it anymore. Fascinating, really. Looking at increasing levels of complexity.
S: Until what?
J: What do you mean?
S: Do you ever get to solve the puzzle?
J: No. When it comes down to it, you're trying to quantify...the complications of the puzzle."